{"id":672,"date":"2011-01-15T22:45:31","date_gmt":"2011-01-16T06:45:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/?p=672"},"modified":"2011-01-15T22:45:31","modified_gmt":"2011-01-16T06:45:31","slug":"subframe-connectors-completed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/?p=672","title":{"rendered":"Subframe connectors completed"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Well these puppies are finally done! \u00a0Not content with the method of attachment as provided, I had John modify them to add a third attachment point, about halfway down their length. \u00a0John found a place that would work on the chassis, then drilled a hole and welded in a tube to hold the bolt:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-3.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-673\" title=\"SubframeConnect-3\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-3-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-3-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-3.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-4.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-674\" title=\"SubframeConnect-4\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-4-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-4-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-4.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Since the connectors don&#8217;t sit flush with the floor of the car at that point, he had to make custom delrin spacers between the car and the connector.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-5.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-675\" title=\"SubframeConnect-5\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-5-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-5-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-5.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here they are installed. \u00a0They look like they&#8217;re different heights because they are. \u00a0Uniformity of 60&#8217;s chassis aren&#8217;t quite what we see in more modern stuff-<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-8.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-676\" title=\"SubframeConnect-8\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-8-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-8-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-8.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-14.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-677\" title=\"SubframeConnect-14\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-14-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-14-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-14.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>My hope is this additional attachment point, on a different longitudunal axis (the as-delivered front and rear attachment points are in-line longitudinally) will provide a meaningful increase in torsional rigidity above-and-beyond the parts as they came. \u00a0We can&#8217;t do weld in and are allowed 3 attachment points so by golly I&#8217;m going to make use of all three!<\/p>\n<p>Every part on the car that doesn&#8217;t absolutely have to be there, is going to have to work hard to prove to me it&#8217;s worth its cost in pounds. \u00a0I may do some testing down the road with the connectors removed, to see if, in measured time around a course, I&#8217;m getting 24 pounds&#8217; worth of rigidity out of them. \u00a0If their benefit is not worth their weight in time, off they go. \u00a0These things are about as good as I think you could make 3-point bolted-in subframe connectors so if they aren&#8217;t worth it, nothing I do legally with the allowance would be.<\/p>\n<p>Third attachment point comes through in proximity of rocker and pan reinforcement for seat mounts, should be a good spot to take some loads.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-6.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-679\" title=\"SubframeConnect-6\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-6-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-6-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-6.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Front connections all snugged up<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-13.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-680\" title=\"SubframeConnect-13\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-13-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-13-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-13.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-7.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-681\" title=\"SubframeConnect-7\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-7-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-7-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-7.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And the view from front to back.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-16.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-682\" title=\"SubframeConnect-16\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-16-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-16-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/SubframeConnect-16.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Another benefit they should provide a good safe place to jack up the car from the side. \u00a0The traditional front crossmember jack point will be inaccessible at the ride height I&#8217;m likely to end up with, especially since it looks now like we&#8217;ll be able to use factory-only spoilers &#8211; a rule change which happens to suit me PERFECTLY, as I&#8217;d only ever wanted to run the factory front air dam and rear lip spoiler. \u00a0I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;ll be able to use the traditional under-diff jack point in the rear either, once all the workings of the rear suspension are together. \u00a0These things may end up providing the only good place to jack up the car. \u00a0So hmmm, maybe I will have to keep them regardless&#8230;driving a car up ramps just to get a jack underneath is a tremendous pain &#8211; been there, done that.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Well these puppies are finally done! \u00a0Not content with the method of attachment as provided, I had John modify them to add a third attachment point, about halfway down their length. \u00a0John found a place that would work on the chassis, then drilled a hole and welded in a tube to hold the bolt: Since [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[11],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/672"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=672"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/672\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":689,"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/672\/revisions\/689"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=672"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=672"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=672"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}