{"id":2090,"date":"2014-04-06T23:23:49","date_gmt":"2014-04-07T06:23:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/?p=2090"},"modified":"2014-04-06T23:23:49","modified_gmt":"2014-04-07T06:23:49","slug":"some-firsts-today-and-cam","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/?p=2090","title":{"rendered":"Some firsts today, and CAM"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Been a long time without an update &#8211; hasn&#8217;t been much to report, but there are a couple developments worth mentioning.<\/p>\n<p>This weekend was the San Diego National Tour, approximately the first anniversary of the car&#8217;s first autocross. \u00a0As mentioned in the previous post, the car has been moved to STU where it is hopelessly outgunned, so I won&#8217;t be running it Nationally this season. \u00a0Instead, for this year&#8217;s SD Tour I co-drove with Gary Thomason in his killer 2008 Viper, same car I ran with him at the 2012 National Champsionships-<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/jrho_in_viper.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-2091\" alt=\"jrho_in_viper\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/jrho_in_viper-1024x591.jpg\" width=\"550\" height=\"317\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/jrho_in_viper-1024x591.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/jrho_in_viper-300x173.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/jrho_in_viper.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The car is a lot of fun &#8211; the handling is right about where my black Viper was when I sold it (still miss that car!), but his has even more power, which is <em>always<\/em> a good thing :). \u00a0Despite have a lot more power than the Camaro, the Viper is actually much easier to drive, because it has race tires, the chassis puts power down very well, and the gearing is very tall&#8230;then there&#8217;s the ABS when it&#8217;s time to slow it down.<\/p>\n<p>On Saturday of the Tour I saw several nice musclecars present as part of the SCCA&#8217;s new CAM class. \u00a0The attendance wasn&#8217;t great, but considering the relatively steep entry fee for a Tour (&gt;$100), and there being a Goodguys event that same weekend in town, the turnout wasn&#8217;t bad. \u00a0This inspired me to commute down in the Camaro on Sunday. \u00a0I try to drive the Camaro around at least once per month, and it was due&#8230;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2093\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2093\" style=\"width: 550px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/photo.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-large wp-image-2093\" alt=\"Jason Rhoades drives his STX 1967 Camaro on the freeway for the first time.  4.88 gears make this a chore...\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/photo-1024x768.jpg\" width=\"550\" height=\"412\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/photo-1024x768.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/photo-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2093\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jason Rhoades drives his STX 1967 Camaro on the freeway for the first time. 4.88 gears make this a chore&#8230;<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>With the optional 4.88 final drive ration, 60mph worked out to about 4000rpm &#8211; which is a very high rpm for cruise in a small block chevy. \u00a0And that was with the &gt;27&#8243; tall &#8220;vintage&#8221; wheel\/tire setup I have, first put on the car <a title=\"Beautiful wheels, horrible ride heights\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/?p=1539\" target=\"_blank\">back in November 2012<\/a>, but never driven on, until today.<\/p>\n<p>The taller tires effectively lengthen the gearing &#8211; on the regular autocross setup, 4000rpm would have been more like 55mph! \u00a0This was the car&#8217;s first time on the freeway since the day I drove it home from Sacramento. \u00a0Fortunately other than some sore eardrums, the car made the 20-miles-each-way journey just fine. \u00a0The drive home was actually quite warm (~80)and I was impressed by how well the car&#8217;s flow-through ventilation system worked.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/camaro_qcom.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-2094 alignnone\" alt=\"Camaro parked at 2014 San Diego National Tour\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/camaro_qcom.jpg\" width=\"576\" height=\"426\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/camaro_qcom.jpg 960w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/camaro_qcom-300x221.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 576px) 100vw, 576px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>(Credit to bigtime STX Camaro fan, 2014 SD Tour STX Winner, and all-around swell chap Max Hayter for the above photo!)<\/p>\n<p>After more off-season thought I had been thinking about lengthening the gearing as a means not only of extending the 2nd gear top speed, but of extending the engine&#8217;s (especially the valvetrain&#8217;s!) life. \u00a0Today&#8217;s freeway drive reinforced that line of thinking. \u00a0Also, that the sidepipes have got to go, for something that exists back behind the car.<\/p>\n<p>###CAM###<\/p>\n<p>Over the past several years, multiple series of successful non-SCCA-related &#8220;Pro-Touring&#8221; focused automotive performance events have arisen. \u00a0Pro-Touring has no agreed upon definition, but most would agree it is something like &#8220;Classic American cars set up to turn and stop, in addition to go straight &#8211; while retaining streetability. \u00a0A Pro-Touring car delivers the performance capability and civility of a modern sports car, with the cool of a classic.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Some of these events have been very low speed autocrosses in tiny lots, where the car show is the focus, but others have had timed high-speed track sessions as part of the curriculum. \u00a0Most of the people attending these events are learning to turn corners for the first time, but there are a few skilled veterans that have partaken in the movement also.<\/p>\n<p>IMO, a few years later than they should have, and since my last post, the SCCA took notice of this trend, and created &#8220;Classic American Muscle&#8221;, or CAM. \u00a0In CAM, which is an experimental provisional regional-only class for 2014,\u00a0any American car weighing 3000lbs. on 200TW street tires is legal, so that would include my Camaro with a full tank of gas and its heavy battery.<\/p>\n<p>When creating something this new &#8211; where you&#8217;re trying to ensnare a big pool of potential new club members &#8211; there are a variety of approaches that can be taken, along what one might call a &#8220;spectrum of inclusivity&#8221;. \u00a0At one end of this spectrum would be an approach where the class starts off with a well thought-out and thorough ruleset, designed to eliminate years of obvious pending takebacks. \u00a0This would probably look a little bit like a mix of our existing CP, SM, and XP allowances, where aero is restricted, some body\/chassis dimensions can&#8217;t be changed, some roadgoing equipment must be retained, and there are limits on tire\/wheel size, as well as resulting vehicle balance. \u00a0Unfortunately this approach is also the least inclusive option on this spectrum.<\/p>\n<p>At the other end of the spectrum is maximal inclusion &#8211; which means letting just about everybody in, which means you can&#8217;t bother people with any rules that would make them illegal. \u00a0This is the approach the SCCA took.<\/p>\n<p>If this approach gets a lot of people signed up and paying SCCA dues, creating lifelong members and participants (in their P-T car or not), then it will have succeeded. \u00a0The part I worry about isn&#8217;t the early honeymoon phase, it&#8217;s later on down the road when it&#8217;s time to try to mold it into something that isn&#8217;t totally unlimited, without angering and losing the people you&#8217;ve worked so hard to attract. \u00a0The unlimited nature of CAM feels like a trick the SCCA is playing on the average, naive-to-racing-rulesets P-T type, which I hope doesn&#8217;t have the affect of turning SCCA-neutral people into SCCA haters.<\/p>\n<p>So what&#8217;s so wrong with CAM as it sits today? \u00a0Well, let&#8217;s start with my car, which works OK for what it is &#8211; what would I need to do to prep for CAM?<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>First, is junk everything forward of the firewall. \u00a0Fenders, hood, bumper, lights, front subframe, engine, cooling system, etc.<\/li>\n<li>Next, is cut a big hold in the firewall to maximize setback of the new aluminum V8 it&#8217;ll be getting, paired to a Jerico or other lightweight race transmission.<\/li>\n<li>Then, build a custom front tubeframe chassis for the modern SLA front suspension that is also narrow, allowing for 315s or wider without increasing overall front width. \u00a0It will have to attach to a custom cage, vs, underneath, so the whole car can get several inches lower without a frame hanging under the floor.<\/li>\n<li>All the steel gets replaced with lightweight composites, and the cooling system, front structures, etc., all get a ton lighter, lower, and moved further back.<\/li>\n<li>At that point I&#8217;d have a car that instead of 2950 with 56% front weight, is around 2600 @ 50\/50. \u00a0But since it has to weigh 3000 lbs. when done, ~400lbs. of ballast goes in at ground level just in front of the rear axle&#8230;<\/li>\n<li>Wait, did I just say rear axle? \u00a0What I meant to say was, just in front of the new independent rear suspension that gives room for 345&#8217;s on 13&#8217;s without widening the car.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>IRS? \u00a0On a classic musclecar?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/pozzi_IRS.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-2098\" alt=\"Art Morrison IRS on Mary Pozzi's Gen2 Camaro\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/pozzi_IRS-1024x768.jpg\" width=\"550\" height=\"412\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/pozzi_IRS-1024x768.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/pozzi_IRS-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That picture I took yesterday &#8211; it&#8217;s an <a href=\"https:\/\/artmorrison.com\/multi-link-IRS.php\" target=\"_blank\">Art Morrison IRS<\/a> at the left rear corner of Mary Pozzi&#8217;s 2nd Gen Camaro, the one that&#8217;s been made <a href=\"http:\/\/bangshift.com\/bangshiftapex\/want-to-drive-mary-pozzis-camaro-nows-your-virtual-chance\/\" target=\"_blank\">immortal by its video game fame<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>But we aren&#8217;t done yet!<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Retrofit 4 wheel ABS<\/li>\n<li>The most awful, humongous, ridiculous aero package, ever.<\/li>\n<li>Composite doors, quarters, etc. &#8211; anything to get the weight down to the ground, just ahead of the rear axle.<\/li>\n<li>And on and on and on&#8230;how about a sucker fan? Etc.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>At that point you have a decent starting point for a Camaro CAM car.<\/p>\n<p>The problem still is, the wheelbase is too long, and the car too wide. \u00a0So start all over with a Vega or Pinto or Fiesta or whatever other tiny little horrible car no P-T person actually wants.<\/p>\n<p>Then, start over again like you&#8217;re building an AMod car, that somehow incorporates part of the body tub of a 30&#8217;s roadster, because that&#8217;s legal too.<\/p>\n<p>So, if I seem hesitant to start working down the CAM path, hopefully this illustrates why. \u00a0 The class needs restrictions on wheelbase, overall width, wheel\/tire (vs. weight), ground clearance, weight distribution, and aero. \u00a0Let people get to those limits however they want, but restrict the end values of those easily measurable and understood dimensions to keep the ridiculous sorts of cars described above, from ever being built.<\/p>\n<p>The current arms race in the P-T community should remind us all what has happened countless times in &#8220;run whatcha brung&#8221; forms of racing. \u00a0Everything is fine until people actually start to care about winning.<\/p>\n<p>To everybody out there that might build for CAM &#8211; be careful with your wallet and energy &#8211; the mods you do today, may not be legal in the CAM of 201x, should the class survive.<\/p>\n<p>For now I&#8217;ll be campaigning to have my car (and perhaps similar size-weight platforms like the Mustangs from the 60&#8217;s through the Fox) moved back into STX for 2015.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Been a long time without an update &#8211; hasn&#8217;t been much to report, but there are a couple developments worth mentioning. 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