{"id":1992,"date":"2013-08-25T01:23:15","date_gmt":"2013-08-25T08:23:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/?p=1992"},"modified":"2013-08-25T01:23:15","modified_gmt":"2013-08-25T08:23:15","slug":"pre-nats-thrash","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/?p=1992","title":{"rendered":"Pre-Nats thrash"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Never plan to have it go like this, but it always seems to&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Last Saturday (8\/18) brought the car out to run at a little test &#8216;n tune.\u00a0 Since Farmington, I&#8217;d changed out the alternator and voltage regulator, as the car was discharging and heating up the alternator when off.\u00a0 Also did some leaf spring tweaks I&#8217;ll talk about later.<\/p>\n<p>Had it on new shaved 265\/35-18 Dunlop Direzza Z2&#8217;s on some new wheels, also had a new set of shaved Hankook RS3&#8217;s on the Jongbloeds, with the idea being to scrub both sets in and do a little compare\/contrast.\u00a0 Up to that point had been running a 265\/40-18 rear tire, about 1 inch taller.<\/p>\n<p>The course was pretty fast, and on the second lap, something &#8220;happened&#8221; just after a particularly fast\/high-revving section. Felt like the engine was on 7 cylinders. The car had been cutting out at strange times, so I was hoping the problem was electrical.<\/p>\n<p>Nope:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/rocker_broke.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-large wp-image-1994 alignnone\" alt=\"Broken rocker arm on Jason Rhoades' 1967 Z28 Camaro clone\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/rocker_broke-956x1024.jpg\" width=\"550\" height=\"589\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/rocker_broke-956x1024.jpg 956w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/rocker_broke-280x300.jpg 280w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/rocker_broke.jpg 1625w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s the intake rocker on cylinder 6.\u00a0 Totally kafluie, bummer.\u00a0\u00a0Could tell as soon as I pulled the valve cover, it was sitting in there sideways.\u00a0 Am thankful it was an intake and not an exhaust rocker, as I hear bad things can happen to the carburetor when the exhaust valves don&#8217;t open.<\/p>\n<p>Upon further inspection the neighboring areas looked ok; the pushrod was ok, as was the top of the valve.\u00a0 In the rocker&#8217;s destruction it didn&#8217;t send big shrapnel everywhere, and on a gram scale, its weight is in line with a brand new rocker.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, I couldn&#8217;t determine this until getting some new rockers.\u00a0 New rocker arms, for an engine built in 1967, that are legal for ST.\u00a0 In a\u00a0week.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/new_rockers.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-1995\" alt=\"NOS rocker arms for Z28 clone\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/new_rockers-1024x576.jpg\" width=\"550\" height=\"309\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/new_rockers-1024x576.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/new_rockers-300x168.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>eBay to the rescue!\u00a0 If you checked Monday, you&#8217;d find they were sold out of ST legal rockers for a &#8217;67 Z28 clone. \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>The above picture is one batch &#8211; a set of 11 NOS rockers with a part number that supercedes (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gmpartswiki.com\/getpage?pageid=85941\">http:\/\/www.gmpartswiki.com\/getpage?pageid=85941<\/a>)\u00a0what was originally put on the cars.<\/p>\n<p>The look, feel, and smell of the boxes brought me back to a time&#8230;technically before I was born, I suppose!\u00a0 A real treat.<\/p>\n<p>The other batch was for a complete set of 16 used factory &#8220;o&#8221; rocker arms &#8211; a long story.\u00a0 Wasn&#8217;t comfortable in the health of any of the rockers on the car, so all got changed &#8211; all exhausts are new, and 5 intakes got used &#8220;o&#8221; rockers.\u00a0 The #6 exhaust rocker was showing signs it was on its way to suffering a similar failure, glad I changed them all out.<\/p>\n<p>To keep this from happening again, will be lowering the rev limiter on the car to 6900 or 7000.\u00a0 This will take away a few mph on the top end, which is already being further reduced by the shorter rear tire I&#8217;ve moved to. Because of this I will likely switch to 4.56 gears next year from the current 4.88.\u00a0 As it is with the \/35 out back, the car should be good for about\u00a065mph in second, which is good enough for most Nationals courses.<\/p>\n<p>If it runs that is, will find out tomorrow.\u00a0 Did a totally boneheaded move while diagnosing\/examining things &#8211; threaded in the compression\u00a0tester too far while testing the first cylinder (#2).<\/p>\n<p>Far enough, the piston hit the tester when I turned the key&#8230;was able to get\u00a0the tester\u00a0back out, but it\u00a0boogered up the spark plug threads a little in the process.<\/p>\n<p>So in addition to the rocker arms, ordered a tap kit for spark plug threads, and an digital endoscope for examining the cylinders.\u00a0 Figured I could use it to look inside cylinder #6 also, where the rocker failed, to ensure it wasn&#8217;t caused by any sort of piston-valve contact.<\/p>\n<p>It was a fun tool, for only like $37 on Amazon &#8211; a lot cheaper than the standalone units I&#8217;d seen for sale.\u00a0 Being USB attached, made it easy to share pictures of my ineptitude like this:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/oops.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-2000\" alt=\"damaged piston\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/oops-1024x768.jpg\" width=\"550\" height=\"412\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/oops-1024x768.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/oops-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Going to try running it like this, though I know sharp edges can cause all kinds of problems.\u00a0 If it&#8217;s no good, I won&#8217;t be making the haul to Nebraska.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>If this is where you are 4 days before you plan to leave for Nationals, you might have a problem:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMG_00000452.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-2001\" alt=\"endoscope view of cylinder 2 in Jason Rhoades Camaro 302\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMG_00000452-1024x576.jpg\" width=\"550\" height=\"309\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMG_00000452-1024x576.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMG_00000452-300x168.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>What else&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Full oil\/filter change, along with a 6 quart &#8220;clean oil flush&#8221; to try to get out anything bad that might have been in the pan, without pulling the pan.<\/p>\n<p>Have some minor exterior\/appearance changes that I think really work, people can see them in Nebraska assuming I make it.<\/p>\n<p>Put in a cold air intake &#8211; I&#8217;d noticed at Farmington, the car was unhappy for Saturday morning runs when it was hottest out.\u00a0 While more power isn&#8217;t really what the car needs, this should at least make it more consistent.\u00a0 I also plan to have it help with splashing-fuel management which I&#8217;ll explain later.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMG_00000449.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-2002\" alt=\"Cold air intake on SBC in Jason Rhoades 1967 Z28 Camaro\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMG_00000449-1024x576.jpg\" width=\"550\" height=\"309\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMG_00000449-1024x576.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMG_00000449-300x168.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>After Farmington I&#8217;d noticed some rubbing in the left rear &#8211; the wheel had traveled to places in relationship to the body, it shouldn&#8217;t have been able to.\u00a0 As it was, the left side of the axle was sitting about 1\/2&#8243; further forward in relation to the springs, than it should have been.<\/p>\n<p>I deduced this was due to the spacer blocks I&#8217;d been using &#8211; they have a little post that comes out the top, to keep them aligned with the upper portion of the leaf spring pad.\u00a0 As supplied, the post was too long, and I had to cut them down to fit up against the axle.\u00a0 That was fine at first, but I later decided to add an additional spacer that adjusted pinion angle downwards; the thing consumed the post height, leaving no post from the main (1.5&#8243;) spacer block to engage directly with the axle.<\/p>\n<p>Well that&#8217;s no good!\u00a0 So, new spacer blocks ordered and installed, with full height posts, to keep engaged to axle even with pinion angle adjuster.<\/p>\n<p>All of this leads to my latest thinking on leaf springs &#8211; that they&#8217;re really not that bad.\u00a0 The problem is nobody makes the right leaf springs so everything ends up a bad compromise.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMG_00000451.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-2004\" alt=\"Global West and Flex-A-Form leaf springs for Jason Rhoades Camaro\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMG_00000451-1024x576.jpg\" width=\"550\" height=\"309\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMG_00000451-1024x576.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMG_00000451-300x168.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>You don&#8217;t want to have to run a spacer block &#8211; they separate the parts that are there to help control the axle (the springs, and in my case, the driver-side watts mount) from the thing they are trying to control.\u00a0 This increases the leverage things like hard acceleration and big lateral forces have on the components.<\/p>\n<p>But to have no spacer block, you have to have a spring that has the right resulting shape\/height at your ride height.\u00a0 In the world of coil springs this is a piece of cake, because there is big selection on spring rates and free lengths, then you can almost always change your perch heights.\u00a0 With those things, you can account for a lot of variation in sprung weight, desired ride height, and desired spring rate, to get just what you want.<\/p>\n<p>With some quick strings and eyeballs I determined I need a leaf that is roughly flat with the car at ride height.\u00a0 How to get there?<\/p>\n<p>The first choice to make in leafs is steel or composite.\u00a0 Steel has been around forever and it&#8217;s fairly commonly known how to get the rate you want.\u00a0 The problem is they are heavy, ridiculously heavy!<\/p>\n<p>In the above photo, the composite leaf weighs less than 10 pounds, the steel weighs over 50!\u00a0 Guess which one is stiffer?\u00a0 You&#8217;d be right if you guess the composite.<\/p>\n<p>The problem with composite springs is they aren&#8217;t designed to go over-center, or flat.\u00a0 There are varying levels of cloth set in there in different directions, and everything goes backwards when the spring goes from a &#8220;U&#8221; shape to an &#8220;n&#8221;shape (or from a smile to a frown, when seen from the side).<\/p>\n<p>Steel should be able to do it, if the springs are designed for it.\u00a0 The steels pictured are the lowest ones Global West sells, which they say lower the car 2&#8243; from stock.\u00a0 Whose car?\u00a0 Those sorts of statements bake in\u00a0an assumption about what the car weighs &#8211; and my car is quite a bit lighter than most, especially in the back.<\/p>\n<p>The steel springs\u00a0have 1&#8221; more &#8220;free arch&#8221; than the composite pictured, which is already 1.5&#8243; too much free arch.\u00a0 Can maybe have the Global West springs de-arched (a trait unique to steel) but\u00a0 it will take time, won&#8217;t be able to do it until after Nats.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Never plan to have it go like this, but it always seems to&#8230; Last Saturday (8\/18) brought the car out to run at a little test &#8216;n tune.\u00a0 Since Farmington, I&#8217;d changed out the alternator and voltage regulator, as the car was discharging and heating up the alternator when off.\u00a0 Also did some leaf spring [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[21],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1992"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1992"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1992\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2009,"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1992\/revisions\/2009"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1992"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1992"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1992"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}