{"id":1228,"date":"2012-05-20T22:07:56","date_gmt":"2012-05-21T05:07:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/?p=1228"},"modified":"2012-05-21T13:50:15","modified_gmt":"2012-05-21T20:50:15","slug":"call-to-arms","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/?p=1228","title":{"rendered":"Call to arms"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Steering arms, in this case.<\/p>\n<p>For some time, been scouring the internet looking for a pair of original Z28 outer steering arms for the Camaro.\u00a0 These are extremely hard to find, and not currently reproduced.\u00a0 (Same story goes for the chrome portions of the &#8217;67 vent windows, if anybody has a pair in good shape, please let me know).<\/p>\n<p>David Pozzi put together as close to a complete detailing of Camaro steering components as exists on the internet <a title=\"PozziRacing steering info\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pozziracing.com\/camaro_steering.htm#Steering arm lengths and part numbers\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>I now have three pairs of outer steering arms-<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/all3_arms.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1229\" title=\"all3_arms\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/all3_arms-300x155.jpg\" alt=\"3 Camaro outer steering arms\" width=\"300\" height=\"155\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/all3_arms-300x155.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/all3_arms-1024x530.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The leftmost\u00a0arm is from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.speedwaymotors.com\/1967-69-Camaro-Steering-Arms,24953.html\" target=\"_blank\">Speedway Motors<\/a>,\u00a0which they are claimed would be shorter\/faster than manual steer arms.\u00a0 Their product description:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>Don&#8217;t know if you ever thought about this or not, but the steering arms on some cars were a different length depending if they were power or manual steering. The manual cars had a longer arm and if you convert them to power steering you still have slow steering.<strong> These forged arms are shorter (faster) than manual steering arms<\/strong>.\u00a0<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The middle arm is one I had on the car at purchase.\u00a0 The car was manual steer, and the state of everything gave me no reason to think any of those components had ever been changed.<\/p>\n<p>The right arm is the more recent addition.<\/p>\n<p>Used two 1\/2&#8243; rods to keep the arms aligned.\u00a0 Measurement is from the rear of the farthest hole.\u00a0 Angle on the square is up at 2&#8243;, so the actual distance measured is 2&#8243; less than appears on the ruler.\u00a0 I&#8217;m looking at the distance from the &#8220;back&#8221; of the rearmost hole, to the &#8220;front&#8221; of the\u00a0tie rod\u00a0hole, maximizing the distance.\u00a0 Working back from right to left on actual lengths-<\/p>\n<p>Rightmost arm:\u00a08 1\/8&#8243;\u00a0 (part number 3954876)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/z28arm.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1230\" title=\"z28arm\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/z28arm-300x185.jpg\" alt=\"Steering arms for Z28 Camaro\" width=\"300\" height=\"185\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/z28arm-300x185.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/z28arm-1024x632.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Middle arm:\u00a08 5\/8&#8243; (part number 3916266)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/mediumarm.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1231\" title=\"mediumarm\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/mediumarm-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"Manual steering arms for '67 Camaro\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/mediumarm-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/mediumarm-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Leftmost arm: 9 1\/8&#8243; (Speedway part number 91034912)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/longarm.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1232\" title=\"longarm\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/longarm-300x195.jpg\" alt=\"Speedway motors Camaro steering arm - too long!\" width=\"300\" height=\"195\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/longarm-300x195.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/longarm-1024x668.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/longarm.jpg 1801w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Tsk tsk on Speedway &#8211; their arms are <em>longer<\/em> than manual steer arms!\u00a0 There is a clear 1\/2&#8243; difference in length with each arm.\u00a0 If Speedway had made their arms shorter than manual steer arms, they&#8217;d be just fine, but they did the opposite.<\/p>\n<p>Why the fuss over 1\/2&#8243;?\u00a0 A few reasons-<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The shorter outer arm length provides a quicker steering ratio.\u00a0 This means less steering input required for a given maneuver, and ultimately means less hand-over-hand, shuffle-steering maneuvers.\u00a0 I hate moving my hands on the wheel, and loathe the slow steering of cars like the E36 era BMWs.<\/li>\n<li>The shorter arm is less &#8220;in the way&#8221; of high offset wheels.\u00a0 Of course, &#8220;high&#8221; offset in the early Camaro world is anything above zero, but in general the shorter arms help you avoid this situation:<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/tierod_rub.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1234\" title=\"tierod_rub\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/tierod_rub-223x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"223\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/tierod_rub-223x300.jpg 223w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/tierod_rub.jpg 749w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 223px) 100vw, 223px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The dreaded tie-rod rub.\u00a0 The guys that run big bump steer\u00a0spacers, get it worse.\u00a0 The above is not my car though ironically,\u00a0the original steering arms had the tie rod rubbing the inside of the <em>sidewall<\/em> of 245-14 tires on the\u00a0&#8217;84 Berlinetta wheels I drove the car down from Sacramento on.\u00a0 Scary!<\/p>\n<p>With the suspension all together, I&#8217;ve since measured for wheels with the manual steering arms, and the size of wheel I&#8217;d like to run in 18&#8243;, just barely clears in many places.\u00a0 With the shorter Z28 arms, I could theoretically fit 17&#8243; wheels with similar clearance, at least to the tie rods.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>These arms are technically the correct part for the car.\u00a0 A big part of this exercise is to experience what it would be like, to drive a vintage Trans-Am Camaro built to SCCA STX rules.\u00a0 While I could probably get away with running one of the inferior arms under the &#8220;parts no longer available&#8221; allowance, it just wouldn&#8217;t be the same.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Sorry it&#8217;s been so long without an update everyone, still don&#8217;t plan on getting into full steam on this for another couple months.\u00a0 For those of you wanting to see progress that I didn&#8217;t run into at the SD National Tour or ET Pro Solo, you can thank your SCCA brethren for one of the most effective guilt trips I&#8217;ve ever been on the wrong side of&#8230; \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>Lots more to come!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/arm_measure.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1244\" title=\"arm_measure\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/arm_measure-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/arm_measure-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/arm_measure-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Steering arms, in this case. For some time, been scouring the internet looking for a pair of original Z28 outer steering arms for the Camaro.\u00a0 These are extremely hard to find, and not currently reproduced.\u00a0 (Same story goes for the chrome portions of the &#8217;67 vent windows, if anybody has a pair in good shape, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[11,10],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1228"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1228"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1228\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1246,"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1228\/revisions\/1246"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1228"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1228"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.rhoadescamaro.com\/build\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1228"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}